Since the states and the the territories are run by Labor governments and the Federal government is only the resulting amalgam of the state's union declared in 1901, I would propose here that the states in a joint agreement declare independence forthwith and form a new federal body...

Academic promotes torture for 'extreme' circumstances

Two Victorian academics have sparked controversy by advocating the legalisation of torture as an interrogation method.

The head of the Deakin Law School, Mirko Bagaric, is the co-author of a paper on the moral justification for torture which is about to be published

No No... this is unacceptable. These two people should be submitted to the process themselves to see what it really means.

There can be NO MORAL justification for this kind of behaviour. Call it whatever you will but do not attach torture and morality in the same breath.

This found in the Sydney Morning Herald letters to the editor this morning was enough to make me choke on my traditionally home-made rye bread.