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storytelling and bullshit listening?....Storylistening: Narrative Evidence and Public Reasoning In Storylistening, Sarah Dillon and Claire Craig provide a theory and practice for gathering narrative evidence that will complement and strengthen, not distort, other forms of evidence, including that from science. The book focuses on the cognitive and collective functions of stories, showing how they offer alternative points of view, create and cohere collective identities, function as narrative models, and play a crucial role in anticipation. Storylistening explores these four functions in areas of public reasoning where decisions are strongly influenced by contentious knowledge and powerful imaginings: climate change, artificial intelligence, the economy, and nuclear weapons and power. Vivid performative readings of stories from the ballad of Tam Lin to the Terminator demonstrate the insights that storylistening can bring and the ways it might be practiced. The book provokes a reimagining of what a public humanities might look like, and shows how the structures and practices of public reasoning can evolve to better incorporate narrative evidence. Storylistening aims to create the conditions in which the important task of listening to stories is possible, expected, and becomes endemic. Taking the reader through complex ideas from different disciplines in ways that do not require any prior knowledge, this book is an essential read for policy makers, political scientists, students of literary studies, and anybody interested in the public humanities and the value, importance and operation of narratives. ————————————- AH. YES. QUESTION: WHICH STORIES SHOULD WE LISTEN TO? NARRATIVE EVIDENCE AND PUBLIC REASONING ARE LIKE GIANT MOUNTAINS LOOKING LIKE POT-HOLES AS WE LISTEN TO WHAT WE WE WANT TO LISTEN TO — AND WE REASON TO WHAT WE THINK IS CORRECT BECAUSE WE KNOW WHAT'S WHAT. BUT IS IT? THIS BOOK SEEMS TO GO AROUND IN AN ENORMOUS CIRCLE OF NARRATIVE BORING NARRATIONS THAT DOES NOT SAVE THE PROBLEM OF INFORMATION FROM BULLSHIT. WHAT I MEAN BY THIS IS, IS APART FROM BEING HIT BY SOLID EVIDENCE — WHICH TO SOME EXTEND IS RARE, EVEN IN SCIENCES WHERE STATISTICS ARE THE SOURCE OF OUR ESTIMATED DISCOVERY — WE MAKE DECISIONS ON THE STYLISTIC DOMAIN OF OUR IMAGINED VALUES. MEANWHILE, LISTENING TO STORIES CAN BECOME ANNOYING AND CIRCULARLY DEBILITATING. PROVIDING NEW POINTS OF VIEW? HAVEN’T WE GOT ENOUGH CONFUSION ALREADY? WE ARE TOLD: In their investigation of how to put knowledge and reason at the heart of decision-making, the European Commission (EC) highlights the importance of framing, narrative, and metaphor. How an issue is framed determine from the very start what is taken to be the target system, the part of the world that matters most to the issue and determines what forms of evidence are deemed relevant and sought out. Storylistening provides new points of views to inform the framing of the target system and the policy debate. NEW NEW NEW OLD STUFF IF YOU ASK ME… about the social sciences, the identification and understanding of collective identities matter to public reasoning. … In principle, narrative evidence, like scientific evidence, could usefully inform almost any policy question. … Done well, this inclusivity will complement and strengthen the use of science.
ISN’T WHAT WE’VE BEEN DOING ALL ALONG? ARE WE GOING TO TAKE THE STORY TELLING OF RELIGIONS IN THE EQUATION, IN ORDER TO BE INCLUSIVE? IS THERE NO PHILOSOPHICAL QUESTION ABOUT THE SCIENTIFIC METHOD? (ANSWER: YES THERE IS...) "Storylistening makes the case for the urgent need to take stories seriously in order to improve public reasoning."
WHICH STORIES? FOR EXAMPLE: The Latvian government is pouring hundreds of thousands of euros into a feature film about a Waffen-SS unit called the Latvian Legion and one of its Nazi-decorated officers. The move has led to a furious reaction from Moscow where the Foreign Ministry claimed, this week, that it betrayed the Baltic nation's issues with historical memory. The film titled ‘Neredzamais Cietoksnis’ (The Invisible Fortress) has been in the works for a couple of years now. The Latvian Culture ministry decided last month that the project qualified for its program to support cultural heritage projects and allocated €300,000 ($320,000) from the scheme’s €1.4 million budget, the television program ‘De Facto’ reported on Sunday. The movie will be about Ernests Laumanis, a Latvian-born Nazi officer. He volunteered after Germany invaded during World War II, rose through the ranks to major, and served as commander of a recon unit in the Latvian Legion, a Waffen SS force composed of ethnic Latvians. He was awarded several decorations for his service, including two grades of the Iron Cross. Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova rebuked Latvia over the news, adding that the Latvian Legion was involved in war crimes, including executions and torture of POWs and civilians. WHAT SHOULD THE PUBLIC POLICY OF THE EUROPEAN UNION BE ABOUT THIS STORY? THIS IS A STORY, ISN’T IT? “The Latvian authorities plan to valorize and whitewash those criminals in a film shot for taxpayers’ money,” she claimed in a post on Monday. She said European politicians in general “have lately shown problems with memory and conscience.” “Yes, our grandfathers wore foreign uniforms, but they fought for Latvia to be free,” Egils Helmanis stated. “We have to tell this story to the end to ourselves and also to the foreigners living in Latvia, in order to understand what the Latvian Legion is and what it fought for.”
HERE ARE TWO POINTS OF VIEW WHICH COUD BE VALID. WHITEWASHING THE NAZIS IS A NEW STORY-TELLING AND LISTENING OF THE WEST, BECAUSE “WE DON’T LIKE RUSSIA.” YES, IN OUR MINDS, RUSSIA DID WORSE STUFF IN LATVIA THAN THE NAZIS, THUS THE NAZIS ARE GOOD PEOPLE. WE FORGET THAT THE RUSSIAN EMPIRE, THE USSR, WAS DISMANTLED IN 1991, 32 YEARS AGO — AND THAT LATVIA BECAME FREE TO BE WHAT “THE WEST WANTED LATVIA TO BE”. WE FORGET THAT THE AMERICAN EMPIRE HAS WANTED TO DESTROY RUSSIA FOR MORE THAN ONE HUNDRED YEARS. THIS DESIRE IS STILL CURRENT. SO? WHICH STORY ARE WE GOING TO LISTEN TO? IN THE BOOK, STORYLISTENING, AND THE SUMMARY ARTICLE IN SCIENCE (AAAS MAGAZINE), GUS ONLY SEES OLD WAFFLE, STRETCHED TO THE LIMIT TO ACCOMODATE THE NEW THINKER: ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE. EVEN THERE, THE TWO AUTHORS SEEM TO WAFFLE ON AND ON AND ON… SURE, THE “GOODLE” AI THINGSTER GOOFED WHEN PRESENTED TO THE PUBLIC AND WIPED 100 BILLION OF THE COMPANY VALUE… Google’s AI goof’s up: BARD AI’s mistake during demo sends Google's stocks tumbling by $100 bn… made up a fact about the James Webb Space Telescope, which showcases a vital problem with using AI generators like ChatGPT. The factual error, plus ChatGPT-Bing’s launch, sent Google’s stock tumbling. YES, ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE WHEN USED WITH BAD INFORMATION CAN GIVE SOME LOONY OUTPUT. MACHINE LEARNING IS NOT 100 PER CENT ACCURATE. OUR BRAINS AND OUR DECISIONS ARE NOT 100 PER CENT CORRECT EITHER. AND PEOPLE DON’T WANT A MACHINE MORE INTELLIGENT THAN US, DO THEY? GOT NEWS FOR YOU… ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE IS ALREADY MORE INTELLIGENT THAT US — BUT WE DON’T KNOW IT YET. I’VE WRITTEN ABOUT THIS (ON THIS SITE AND ELSEWHERE) AND HOW MACHINE LEARNING CAN MAKE US MORE PEACEFUL. IT JUST COULD NEED A SMALL TWEAK IN MAKING MACHINE-LEARNING BECOME COMPASSIONATE AND CARE ABOUT THE DUMB HUMANS. THAT WOULD BE A NEW TWIST… NOT REALLY. BOOKS, INCLUDING MINE, HAVE SURVEYED THIS PROPOSITION. POLITICIANS BECOMING REDUNDANT? HOLLY MACKERELS!
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NOEL COWARD WAS A GREAT STORYTELLER — A GREAT BULLSHITTER REALLY.
BUT RECENTLY WE SHOULD PAY ATTENTION TO THE GREATEST STORY OF THE YEAR SO FAR...
IS IT THE AMERICAN EMPIRE BRAVELY FIGHTING BALLOONS? YES, ONE OF THE UFO (UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECTS) FLOATING ALONG LIKE A CORK ON YOUR BATHTUB-SPHERE TOOK TWO GOES TO BRING IT DOWN. THE FIRST RAPTOR22 FIRED ROCKET MISSED AND FELL SAFELY IN LAKE HURON WHERE IT DROWNED. THE SECOND WAS A HIT. SHOULD WE CONSIDER THIS A 50 PER CENT SUCCESS OR A 100 PER CENT SUCCESS — OR A WASTE OF MONEY AS THESE ROCKETS ARE ABOUT $1.3 MILLION EACH — OR A DISTRACTION?.
NO... THE STORY OF THE YEAR IS THAT THE AMERICAN EMPIRE BLEW UP THE NORD SEA PIPELINES.
OBVIOUSLY, THE EMPIRE DENIES IT BECAUSE IT WAS NOT OFFICIALLY DONE. THE BEST JOURNALIST OF OUR TIMES, SEYMOUR HERSH, EXPLAINED HOW THE DEED WAS DONE — POLITICALLY AND TECHNICALLY.
SO FAR NOT A SINGLE BEEP OR SQUEAK IN THE MEDIOCRE MASS MEDIA DE MIERDA ABOUT THIS, EXCEPT TENTATIVE CLAIMS THAT HERSH IS A NOT A TRUSTWORTHY JOURNALIST OR SUCH — BECAUSE THIS STORY GOES AGAINST OUR NARRATIVE THAT "THE RUSSIANS DID IT"... IT WOULD BE BLOODY ANNOYING IF THE AMERICANS DID IT. THEY MUST HAVE HAD A GOOD REASON FOR IT. YES, LIKE STOPPING THE GERMANS FROM THINKING ABOUT REOPENING THE PIPELINES TO KEEP WARM IN WINTER AND NOT BUY AMERICAN GAS AT FOUR TIMES THE PRICE. THE GERMAN CADS!
YES WE CAN STORYLISTEN TO THIS ACCEPTABLE DECISION. WE DID NOT WANT THE GERMANS TO WEAKEN IN THEIR NAZI SUPPORT FOR FASCIST UKRAINE. IN REGARD TO NAZISM THE GERMANS ARE EXPERTS, AREN'T THEY?
SO ALL IS GOOD IN THE MEDIOCRE WORLD OF THE AMERICAN EMPIRE. BULLSHIT REIGNS SUPREME.
WE CAN ONLY SALUTE AND POKE OUR EYE AT THE SAME TIME, LIKE JOE DOES ALL THE TIME.
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AND WHILE BALLOONS MAKE THE HEADLINES TO BURY THE BIDEN ADMINISTRARION (CONTRARIAN ADMINISTRATION)'S DESTRUCTION OF THE PIPELINES, WE IN AUSTRALIA ARE KEPT IN THE DARKEST SHIT:
American B-52 bombers armed with nuclear warheads could rotate through Australia without breaching treaty obligations, the nation’s most senior defence public servant has indicated.
The Australian public would never be informed whether such aircraft are carrying nuclear weapons under the so-called US policy of “warhead ambiguity” in which it neither confirms nor denies if particular forms of military equipment are nuclear-armed.
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By Nury Vittachi
Shocking false narratives are concocted by the west to create animosity towards rivals, says 500-page study from University of London researcher.
U.S. government bodies working with the western media created a massive “atrocity fabrication” industry to discredit China and other perceived enemies of the west, says a stunning new book to be published next month.
Horrific tales of torture and genocide were manufactured to be spread by the media in a technique developed by western powers over decades to demonise countries including Vietnam, Cuba, North Korea, China, and others, says Atrocity Fabrication and its Consequences: How Fake News Shapes World Order by A.B. Abrams, a geopolitical specialist and academic based in London.
This atrocity fabrications process has been used in numerous locations around the world over decades, but recently culminated in a dramatically fake genocide in Xinjiang – in which the allegedly genocided group, rather than disappearing, actually expanded faster than the population of the people alleged to be perpetrators.
The astonishing 500-page study by A. B. Abrams of the University of London shows exactly how the world has been misled by a series of deceptive techniques, developed over many years: and how what we read today is directly related to famously fraudulent news stories like the “weapons of mass destruction” and the machine-gunning of students at Tiananmen Square.
“Xinjiang’s Uyghur population were the latest Kuwaiti incubator babies, the latest American civilians killed in Cuban terrorist attacks, the latest Filipino civilians brutalised by the Huks or Syrian victims of their government’s chemical weapons,” Abrams writes. “They were Park Yeonmi forced to walk across three mountains and bury her father, Iraqi dissidents fed live into human shredders, students run over by tanks in Tiananmen Square, or Libyan women raped by Gaddafi’s black African mercenaries.
“What all these alleged victims had in common was that the crimes against them were never actually committed but were very widely publicised to build narratives which furthered Western foreign policy objectives.”
Abrams’ superb work will be published next month, but advance copies have been sent to the present writer and others. The book is described by top independent journalist Max Blumenthal as “a devastating exposé of the interventionist clique that has weaponised human rights in order to destabilise enemy nations and immiserate their populations”.
Fake news shapes global thinking
Abrams is a highly respected scholar, known for his superb research-led work into geopolitical relations, and his ability to see through the thick fog of media noise. In painstaking detail, with sources carefully cited, this new book tells precisely how the western world uses the media to shape global thinking by creating false narratives and weaponising concepts such as human rights to demonise rivals.
How does the atrocity fabrication technique work? Hostile people in “independent” human rights groups discreetly financed by the United States government fabricate stories of grotesque atrocities which are widely circulated by the world’s biggest media, including the BBC, Reuters and the New York Times.
Abrams traces the development of the atrocity fabrication technique over centuries right up to the present, but in this article, we’ll take a deeper look at one example: his analysis of the current narrative of “concentration camps” in China.
The north-western part of China painted as the site of a genocide. But it’s abundantly clear to everyone who visits Xinjiang or just sees the constant flow of videos from that community on Chinese TikTok that there has clearly been no such thing among the 13 million Uyghurs in northwestern China. Just like people everywhere, they post videos of themselves dancing, eating, partying, getting married, and so on. Nobody could live such normal lives if a huge number of members of their community were being tortured and murdered in concentration camps. The narrative is clearly fake. So where did the horror stories come from?
“These claims relied overwhelmingly on U.S. government-funded anti-China groups dominated by hardline Uyghur dissidents with Islamist or separatist positions such as the World Uyghur Congress, the Uyghur Human Rights and Democracy Foundation and the Uyghur American Association,” the book says.
“These were all heavily funded by the U.S. Congress through the National Endowment for Democracy, which had been closely affiliated with the CIA since its foundation and tasked with carrying out overtly what the agency had formerly done alone and more covertly.”
The innocent are harmed
What is really shocking is that the fabricating of atrocities often leads to harm for the innocent: the Chinese community, for example, is unfairly demonised worldwide as cruel and barbarous, while blameless Uyghurs in China have been made unemployable for no fault of their own.
Ordinary individuals who speak out are also targeted. Jerry Grey, a retired London police officer, spent time in Xinjiang and wrote an honest description of life in the province, debunking Western media allegations of death camps. “This is absolute rubbish – there are not a million Uighurs in concentration camps, that is just total baloney,” he wrote.
Daniel Dumbrill, a brewer-turned-commentator, did something similar. “We’re expected to believe that the population of Uyghurs is being eradicated. It’s a ridiculous statement whether it is in a literal sense or even a cultural sense,” he said.
They and others like them were punished harshly. Many western reporters attacked these individuals as paid agents of Beijing, without a scrap of evidence. “The BBC, for one, equated such questioning of the Western narrative with ‘spreading Communist Party disinformation’ and strongly implied the need for policing to restrict such expats’ reach on YouTube and other social media platforms,” Abrams says in the book.
Ironically, Grey and Dumbrill were telling the truth free of charge, while the journalists attacking them were collecting fat salaries for spreading “news reports” which were fabricated atrocities.
How the process began
It is fascinating to look back at how the process began in the case of the Xinjiang fabrications. The book notes that many countries had to find ways to deal with Islamist terrorists. (Most preferred not to follow the western response of invading the wrong country and causing large numbers of deaths.)
China’s efforts to deal with extremist Islamist terrorists were to implement deradicalisation programs, a route also chosen by Indonesia and France. However, western media and governments chose to present the Chinese version as unique. “The Chinese program saw a metanarrative created around it by Western NGOs and media outlets that was very far removed from any verifiable reality on the ground, and was based on highly dubious and in many cases entirely fabricated source materials,” Abrams says.
This misrepresentation of the facts was used to provide excuses to attack China on economic and other fronts. “As China emerged as an unprecedentedly potent challenger to Western power, this narrative sought to vilify and provide pretext for hostile actions against it,” Abrams writes.
Journalists were encouraged to print horrific reports about a massive network of Nazi-like death camps for the “genocide” of innocent victims, using stories from groups such as the Network of Chinese Human Rights Defenders. The CHRD website presents itself as a group of Chinese individuals rising up within the Chinese nation; but in reality, it is actually based in the US and “is heavily funded by the U.S. Congress through the NED, receiving approximately US$500,000 annually”, the book says. CHRD listed its address as the Washington D.C. office of Human Rights Watch, a similar group that weaponises human rights to attack China.
Recycled methods
How did they fool so many people so well? Practice and long experience. In particular, the west recycled the same atrocity fabrication techniques they had used to demonise North Korea against China—specifically “using emotional but highly inconsistent female defector testimonies”.
For example, the BBC and CNN for days made their top story the tale of Tursunay Ziawudun, presented as a concentration camp survivor with nightmarish stories. You can’t read the reports without feeling hate bubbling up for the Chinese.
But for anyone who makes the effort to dig deeper, a problem quickly emerges: she has been interviewed many times, and told very different stories every time, with the accounts becoming increasingly extreme. In 2017 and 2018 interviews, she described her time in the detention center thus: “To be honest, it wasn’t that bad. We had our phones. We had meals in the canteens. Other than being forced to stay there, everything was fine.” She also said: “I wasn’t beaten or abused. The hardest part was mental.”
However, the BBC newsroom shockingly chose not to tell its audience about these earlier interviews, presenting only a very different horror-movie-like story that mysteriously emerged after she had travelled to the United States as a guest of a NED-funded NGO. In the new version, she was “removed from the cells ‘every night’ and raped by masked Chinese men, and that she was tortured, gang-raped and had her genitals electrocuted”. Her cell mates “disappeared”.
Many of these “torture-porn” stories presented as news reports by the BBC and CNN were so extreme that even anti-China campaigners expressed discomfort, and tried to distance themselves. “You cannot write a news story claiming systematic rape based on three eyewitness accounts, not all of whom are reliable,” wrote Gene Bunin, who runs the Xinjiang Victims Database. “You just can’t and the BBC should know better. Take that from someone who’s been dealing with testimonies 24/7 for the past two years now.”
U.S. academic Ma Haiyun, a harsh critic of China’s government, admitted he could no longer even discuss whether the stories were true. “In the current political climate, if you publicly state that there is no genocide in Xinjiang, it will affect your reputation to the point where if I said this, half of my friends would cut me off,” he wrote. In other words, the truth could not even be mentioned, let alone investigated, even by anti-China campaigners.
Opposite of a prison
A common argument was that there must be a genocide in China, because why else would the Chinese refuse to allow anyone to enter the area? The western media followed the CIA-founded Radio Free Asia’s line in presenting Xinjiang as a giant prison, a locked-off place where people can’t enter. This was the opposite of the truth. More than 150 million tourists visit the region every year, mostly domestic visitors but with some foreigners, making it one of the world’s top tourist spots by number. Many stay in Uyghur-run hotels and make a point of eating Uyghur foods.
Worryingly, there were clearly cases in which the western media did not just report a false narrative, but seemed to actively enable the deception of their own audiences. Abrams noted how an image showing the details of Tursunay Ziawudun’s passport created a problem for the new narrative she was pushing. Instead of investigating this crucial discrepancy, CNN reporters covered it up by blurring the key part of the image.
Abrams’ book also notes the real story behind the image of a large group of men used by the Guardian and almost every other media outlet to present Uyghur concentration camp victims. But, as this writer pointed out two years ago, it really shows a 2017 group of people in a rehabilitation center gathering to listen to a Muslim speaker.
Serial deceiver rewarded
What about all those pictures on Twitter of Uyghurs being horrible harmed or mistreated? To find an answer to that, consider the case of the notorious Arslan Hidayat. This Australia-based individual’s standard technique was to take pictures of people in misery from anywhere he could find them and then re-label them as Uyghurs being tortured by Chinese, for mass diffusion on the internet. When confronted, he would admit that this type of falsification was common among activists such as himself—and then do the same trick again.
You would think that such a person would immediately have sacrificed all credibility. The opposite is true: he was quoted as a legitimate source by the BBC, the Guardian, CNN, AFP, Al-Jazeera, TRT WORLD, and numerous others. Today he has been rewarded for his skills in deception by being given a salaried position at Campaign for Uyghurs, one of many, er, “independent” anti-China propaganda groups.
Moral compass? What moral compass? Dear reader, keep turning the pages. It gets worse.
Harming, not helping
One of the most depressing reports in the book is what happened to Esquel Group, run by a popular family in Hong Kong. This company, one of the world’s most successful shirt makers, happily employed 400 Uyghur workers, and many so enjoyed working there that they become long term staff. It was the win-win situation that gives business people a good name.
Yet the company was unfairly put on a blacklist of “slave labor” firms by the US Commerce Department. This made exports difficult. “In response Esquel invited U.S. Commerce Department staff to visit the facilities in Xinjiang with free and open access but received no response,” Abrams writes. For Esquel staff, it was puzzling – it was as if their accusers didn’t want to know the truth.
“When it [Esquel] subsequently invited independent labour audit specialists to visit the facilities in Xinjiang and carry out unstructured interviews with randomly selected Uyghur workers, every instance found no evidence of the forced labour or coercion being alleged by Western sources,” Abrams writes.
But what could be done? For all its talk of “rules-based order”, the western government-media machine ignores even the most basic concepts of right and wrong.
Other companies, seeing cases like this, simply stop hiring Uyghurs. When companies are punished for doing the right thing, firms take fright. Western media and government are literally making Uyghurs unemployable while pretending to help them.
Other visitors react differently
What will be the outcome of this difficult situation? In Abrams’ opinion, it is clear that the Xinjiang genocide narrative has been swallowed by western countries, but he notes the majority of the world’s population is clearly sceptical.
Numerous middle eastern and Asian countries have sent envoys to Xinjiang and come away satisfied by what they have seen. Nepalese ambassador Leela Mani Paudyal noted after her visit: “The vocational education and training centres in Xinjiang are not ‘concentration camps’ as described by some Western media, but schools to help those influenced by extreme thoughts to eliminate the harmful thoughts and learn vocational skills . . . This anti-terrorism example is worthy of learning by many countries.”
Atrocity fabrications hurt East and West
In the long run, it is very clear that the atrocity fabrications of the west are harmful and divisive to everyone, whether the narratives are focused on Xinjiang, Tibet, or in other parts of the world. Western governments and media have put so much time and energy into their overblown atrocity tales that it will be difficult for them to backtrack to more moderate positions. As a result, it is inevitable that there be a sharp drop in trust levels for western governments and media.
“The significant investment the west’s information networks have put behind the Xinjiang fabrication, including assets such as Human Rights Watch, the BBC and RFA, means that pressing this narrative too far, and limited international receptivity to it, may well erode Western international credibility when commenting on humanitarian issues beyond a point of no return.”
Some might say that the mainstream media’s reputation is already beyond repair. Time will tell.
Abrams’ excellent book will be out in March.
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