Wednesday 27th of November 2024

faces of freedom .....

faces of freedom .....

Q President Obama, the ban on headscarves and veils for young girls in French schools and President Sarkozy's position on Turkey's entry into the European Union, is this likely to hinder the new approach to Islam that you presented in Cairo two days ago?

PRESIDENT OBAMA: I think that this is a process. And what I tried to do in Cairo was to open up a conversation both in Muslim communities, but also in non-Muslim communities; both in the Middle East, but also here in the West.

And as I said in the speech, I think that freedom of religious expression is critical.

That is part of our liberal tradition both in France and the United States, and that we should not have two standards for freedom of religious expression, one for Muslims and one for non-Muslims.

PRESIDENT SARKOZY: Perhaps I could just say a few words on this. First of all, I thought that President Obama's speech was a remarkable speech. We have long been awaiting to hear the United States of America, the world's number one power, shouldering its full share of responsibility in avoiding the clash of cultures and civilizations between East and West. And I totally agree with what President Obama said, including on headscarves and veils.

But let me simply say two things. In France, any young girl, any girl who wishes to wear a veil or a headscarf may do so, it's her free choice to do so. We simply set two limits because we are a secular state; that is that civil servants who are actually on duty must not have - must not show any sign of their religious belief, be they Jewish, Orthodox, Muslim, Protestant, Catholic, you name it. That's what we call a totally impartial, secular administration. In other words, when on duty at the actual counters where they work, there must be no visible sign of whatever religion they belong to. Secondly, the fact that young girls may choose to wear a veil or a headscarf is not a problem as long as they have actually chosen to do so, as opposed to this being imposed upon them, be it by their families or by their environment.

women's education

from Robert Fisk

True, there are brave souls who fight for this in Afghanistan – and pay for their struggle with their lives – but if you walk into a remote village in, say, Nangarhar province, you can no more persuade its tribal elders of the benefits of women's education than you could persuade Henry VIII of the benefits of parliamentary democracy. Thus the benefits we wish to bestow upon the people of Afghanistan are either cherry-picked (the money comes in handy for the government's corrupt coffers and the election reinforces tribal loyalties) or ignored. In the meantime, Nato soldiers go on dying for the pitiful illusion that we can clean the place up. We can't. We are not going to.

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barking mad maxine ....

Yes Gus ....

Last night on Q&A, barking mad Maxine McKew was busy flashing her new teeth whilst demonstrating her intellectual credentials as the new face of bennelong ....

On the subject of afghanistan ....

CANDY BOWERS: Sure, but I mean, I'm just - what I'm talking about really is when we get down to law and we get down to Shiite laws and Islamic laws as well, I just think there should be someone here representing the culture speaking from that point of view.

MAXINE MCKEW: Why, they wouldn't respect your point of view?

Spoken like a true believer & a true democrat!!

low legal penalty for rape

from the BBC

A United Nations panel has urged Japan to take stronger measures to eliminate gender inequality.

The Committee on the Elimination of Discrimination Against Women said the country's efforts were "insufficient".

It pointed to unequal laws on marriage, the treatment of women in the labour market and the low representation of women on elected bodies.

But the committee said Japan had made great progress reducing the already low maternal mortality rate.

It said the world's second-biggest economy ranked 54th in the world in terms of gender equality.