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Russia started the conflict in Ukraine and can end it "straight away”, Sir Keir Starmer has said after Russian President Vladimir Putin suggested Moscow would regard Western missiles being fired into Russia as a serious escalation of the war.

The PM is in Washington for talks with US President Joe Biden on Friday, as allies of Kyiv discuss giving Ukraine permission to fire their missiles at targets inside Russia.

Putin told Russian state television that this would “mean nothing other than the direct participation of Nato countries - the US and European countries - in the war in Ukraine." 

"It is their direct participation," he said. "And, of course, this substantially changes the very essence, the nature of the conflict.”

He added: “If that is the case, we will take corresponding decisions based on the threats that will be created to us.”

Asked for his response to the remarks on his flight to Washington, the prime minister struck a robust tone repeatedly stating that Russia had started the war.

“Russia started this conflict. Russia illegally invaded Ukraine. Russia can end this conflict straight away,” he said. He later added: “To reiterate, it was Russia who started this in the first place. They caused the conflict, they’re the ones who are acting unlawfully.”

The prime minister and Foreign Secretary David Lammy are on a blitz of international diplomacy, as Ukraine’s allies discuss how to respond to Iran stepping up its support for Russia.

Lammy told the BBC this “clearly changes the debate” as he visited Kyiv alongside the US Secretary of State, Antony Blinken.

On Sunday, the day after the prime minister returns from Washington, he will fly to Rome to meet the Italian Prime Minister, Georgia Meloni.

Italy currently holds the rotating presidency of the G7 group of industrialised countries.

A week later world leaders will gather in New York for the annual UN General Assembly.

There has long been a hesitancy to allow Ukraine to fire Western missiles into Russia because of fears it could be seen as provocative and draw the US, European countries and others directly into the conflict.

But with winter approaching and Russia getting extra support from Iran, minds appear to be changing.

When asked about the prospect of allowing the Anglo-French cruise missile called Storm Shadow to be used, the public remarks of senior figures remain guarded.

“There are really important developments likely in the next few weeks and months, both in Ukraine and the Middle East, and therefore a number of tactical decisions ought to be taken,” the prime minister told reporters, without disputing the issue is on the agenda.

He noted that both Blinken and Lammy had recently visited Ukraine.

"They're obviously with us to report into the process on a really important joint trip.”

Speaking earlier in the day, Putin said: “This isn’t about allowing or banning the Kyiv regime from striking Russian territory. It does that already with drones and by other means. 

"But when we talk about high-precision, long-range weapons made in the West this is a completely different matter... The Ukrainian army is not able to strike with modern, high-decision, long-range systems. It can’t do this. It is only possible with intelligence data from satellites that Ukraine doesn’t have, data that’s only from satellites of the European Union, the USA, Nato satellites."

"The key point," he added, "is that only servicemen of Nato countries can input flight missions into these missile systems. Ukrainian servicemen cannot do this. Therefore this is not about permitting or not permitting the Ukrainian regime to strike Russia with these weapons. 

"This is about whether or not Nato countries take the decision to directly participate in the military conflict.”

This is the prime minister’s second visit to Washington in a little over two months, having travelled here in July for the Nato Summit and a visit to the White House, shortly after winning the general election. 

Starmer said he would not be meeting the vice-president and Democratic presidential nominee Kamala Harris during the visit.

When asked by journalists on the flight to the US, he said: “No, because she will be in other parts of the US as you'd expect, rather than Washington, she'll be as you'd expect in swing states... That's fine.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvgxgvw38xjo

 

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SEE ALSO: https://www.rt.com/russia/603934-putin-warning-nato-weapons/

 

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british insanity....

When the British political strategist Deborah Mattinson heard Vice President Kamala Harris boast in the presidential debate about prosecuting transnational gangs, she thought the message was spot on — and that Harris needed to deliver it many, many, many more times.

The former head of strategy for Prime Minister Keir Starmer, who won a landslide election in July, Mattinson was in Washington the week of the debate to meet with Democrats, including advisers to the Harris campaign, and share lessons from the Labor Party’s smashing summer victory. She and Claire Ainsley, Starmer’s former head of policy, urged Democrats to focus intently on winning back working-class voters who had drifted to the right in recent years — toward right-wing populists who seemed more in touch with their economic frustrations and cultural grievances.

 

Countering that, the two strategists said, required a driving, disciplined effort by Harris and other Democrats to prove that they had clear plans for easing the cost-of-living crisis and an authentic commitment to border security. In Britain, Starmer did that in part by pledging to “smash the gangs” of people smugglers violating the border — a message Harris has seemed to echo in recent weeks.

“For voters, cost of living and immigration are the two biggest issues,” Ainsley said. “And that’s where they need to focus their attention.”

POLITICO spoke with Mattinson and Ainsley as they were wrapping up their visit to Washington. Harris, they said, was on the right track. But with only weeks left until the election, there was still plenty of work for her to do to defeat former President Donald Trump.

Their advice was not just based on intuition or interpretation of the recent U.K. election. Ainsley is a leader of the Progressive Policy Institute, where she directs a transnational effort to revitalize center-left parties. As part of that effort, the think tank shuttled Labour politicians to Washington earlier this year and the Democratic convention in August, and conducted polling and focus groups in American swing states over the summer.

The results of that opinion research, Mattinson said, were striking.

“We just heard exactly the same anecdotes, exactly the same struggle, exactly the same sort of battles, particularly with the cost-of-living crisis, on both sides of the Atlantic,” Mattinson said. “It was an almost eerie similarity.”

This interview has been edited for length and clarity.

Based on your time in Washington, how much did you get the sense that Democrats followed your general election and came to your conversations with a perception of how you won? And how much did you feel like you were educating them from zero?

Mattinson: I think both, actually. I think the fact that we got to meet a lot of people — there was a lot of interest in meeting us — showed that there was obviously interest in the campaign and what we did. But obviously we’re able to give them the story from the inside, which wouldn’t always be apparent, however closely you’re following it from the outside.

Ainsley: The parallel we were able to draw between where the Harris campaign is at and how Labour won — that was reasonably fresh for this audience. So, they were interested, as Deborah said. They knew that Labour had won and had won big. But they didn’t necessarily know that the strategic challenge that the Democrats have been having, i.e. to reach non-college voters, if you like, was so central to the Labour victory, but also to the Labour strategy right the way through. Those conversations were fruitful and very applicable to the U.S. context.

Can you expand on that in terms of the parallels as to where Harris is right now versus where Starmer was at a comparable point?

Mattinson: Harris at this point is in a much better position than Labour was when Claire and I both started working for Labour. Three years ago, we were 12 points behind in the polls. But obviously, Harris does not have very much time. We had the luxury of several years to sort of sharpen and hone the message. She has — there’s a massive sense of urgency. So although she’s already made fantastic headway, and closed the gap and, in some cases, overtaken her opponent in those key states, there’s still some work to do to seal the deal and she hasn’t got very long to do it.

How close is the parallel, in terms of her challenge with working-class voters, voters without college degrees and the challenge that Labour faced?

 

Mattinson: This is one of the things where there was an almost eerie similarity. Some of the focus groups that we sat through here in the U.S., if you change the accent and some of the vocabulary, they were exactly what we had heard in the U.K. People talked about being the squeezed middle — they were the middle class who were struggling. Some of the stories that they told us: about the struggles that they were having making ends meet, having to calculate their family finances every week, every month; being worried that the dream of home ownership was out of reach in some instances for them; in other instances, they’d been able to choose their own home, but worried that their children never would.

We just heard exactly the same anecdotes, exactly the same struggle, exactly the same sort of battles, particularly with the cost-of-living crisis, on both sides of the Atlantic. It was an almost eerie similarity.

Ainsley: And those voters are voters in both countries, who historically would have identified with, respectively, the Democrats and the Labour Party. And both our parties have had this big strategic challenge of those voters feeling like our parties don’t represent them anymore.

What Starmer’s victory shows is that it is possible to realign those voters with their center-left party. But you can only do it if you put those voters absolutely at the center of everything you do. So, I think there are some positives that the Harris campaign can take from that story, and the center left more generally.

Mattinson: And that focus, obviously, matters even more when you have so little time.

That’s exactly what I was going to ask you next. Your campaign showed it’s possible to draw those voters back to the center-left with years of work. Harris has 50 or so days. So when you’re talking to Democrats this week, and you know that they’re under that kind of time pressure, where are you nudging them to go?

Mattinson: There needs to be even more discipline in the messaging. There needs to be a very clear, tangible offer — what we would call a retail offer, where you’ve got a small number of things that you repeat. There’s lots of good material. Vice President Harris mentioned a lot of these things in the debate the other evening. But they now need to put them front and center and on repeat. Some of the specifics that she mentioned would be very, very popular and attractive to these voters: the support for small businesses, for example, the support for first-time homeowners, the child tax credit, et cetera. But they need to be packaged up in a way that means that they definitely land. Because at the moment, people, I think, won’t know about them. They’re only going to get to know about them by hearing it on repeat.

I wonder how much the issue of immigration looms over this conversation. How big is the group of voters who would respond well to a small-business support plan or homeownership plan, but they’re not really going to buy what you’re selling more comprehensively unless they think you’re credible on border security?

Mattinson: It’s the second-most important issue for these voters. I actually think that the way the vice president handled this in the debate was very effective, where she said: I’m the only person on this stage who has actually prosecuted the criminal gangs that traffic human beings. I think that there needs to be more of that sort of talk.

Ainsley: And using the example of what U.K. Labour and Starmer did on immigration — for both our parties, this has not been a comfortable debate at times. But there is no way that center-left parties can somehow avoid this big issue. What Starmer did was, he went on the front foot and launched a new policy on it, on a Border Security Command, and said he would scrap the Tory government’s Rwanda scheme. And that was not easy — to go on the front foot in that way. But our message here is that that is absolutely what the Democrats have to do. They have to recognize that for voters, cost of living and immigration are the two biggest issues. And that’s where they need to focus their attention.

You worked extensively with Starmer on his personal story and on introducing himself, biographically, to the public. This campaign is the first time most voters have heard about Harris’ family story. Her focus now on introducing herself as a child of the middle class — that’s really a new thing for her. There’s no Kamala Harris equivalent of “my father was a tool maker,” right? Like, the one thing that everybody knows about Keir Starmer’s upbringing and —

Mattinson: I wish everybody knew it.

They don’t?

Mattinson: I wish everybody knew it, but they don’t all know it.

How much is that a disadvantage for Harris? You were introducing somebody who was more of a blank slate, whereas there’s a half-a-decade of perception for Kamala Harris and people don’t know those kinds of biographical facts about her.

Mattinson: I think you’re right, there’s a challenge there. I would say, in the focus groups that we did, some people did know that about her. So, it is landing. And she is working very hard to get that out there. It obviously matters to her to tell that story. She mentioned it several times the other night and I’m sure it’s going to be a big feature of the campaign. And I think it really matters, because it really changes people’s perceptions of her. If they know this, they look at her in a slightly different light, and they believe they’re more likely to believe that she’ll fight for them.

Ainsley: Remember that for most of the years where Starmer was leader, as Deborah says, we were so far behind the Tories, we didn’t really look like an imminent prospect for government. People just weren’t paying attention to us in that way. So yeah, of course it’s not ideal [for Harris] to have this short space of time. But the advantage the Harris campaign has got is that the slots they are getting to put forward their case are box-office slots. It makes it even more important that you get your message right the first time. We’re really encouraged by what she is saying. We just think it could be even crisper in terms of giving this offer to voters that really speaks to their priorities on cost of living and immigration.

You mentioned Harris’s immigration message about taking on transnational gangs. How much do you hear that as a deliberate echo of the “smash the gangs” message that Starmer delivered? 

Mattinson: I don’t think it’s a deliberate echo. I very much doubt they’ve looked at what we’ve done and thought, “Hey, that’s a good idea.” But there is another slightly uncanny parallel, which is that she and Keir Starmer have very similar backgrounds, in that they have both been prosecuting lawyers. They’ve got a sort of a track record that they can talk about effectively. And, it seemed to me, she was doing that very clearly on Tuesday evening.

Something that Starmer did over the course of several years was very visibly take on the left and show the country that their perceptions of Labour as a left-wing nut job party were not reflected in this leadership. I wonder whether you think there’d be a value to Harris is she picked any fights with the left.

Mattinson: I think the Democrats looking united in the way that they do is very, is very important, and probably matters more. I think that there’s no parallel there. We were in a very different position. We had just endured our worst defeat since the 1930s. When the voters reject you on that scale, you have to ask yourself what you’re doing wrong and what you need to change.

Ainsley: I think it was important to the Labour story that Starmer moved the party to the center ground from where we had been, which was being perceived as on the left. And, as important, voters perceived that we didn’t have their interests at heart. Starmer actually took the party to the center, which was the right longer-term choice. And obviously, in the short term, that meant there were some moments of disunity.

From where Harris is now, there seems to be no real gain for her in defining herself in that way. She wants to galvanize the party behind her. If she does win the presidency, there is a longer-term question of making sure that the Democrats stay on the center ground, because that is where those voters want you to be. These voters are so fed up with politics in general. The biggest challenge will be, how do you deliver for those voters? Not: how do you try and keep different bits of your own party on board?

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/09/12/what-keir-starmers-advisers-told-democrats-in-washington-00179007

 

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german insanity....

Ukraine updates: Starmer, Biden meet at White House

Despite rumors beforehand, particularly on strikes inside Russia, the US said to expect no major announcements as UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer met US President Joe Biden at the White House. Follow DW for more.

The British prime minister visited the White House to talk to US President Joe Biden about the next steps in Ukraine’s war against Russia.
 
Starmer said that the next phase of fighting could be "crucial" amid multiple developments on the front lines, and as the US gears up for presidential elections.
 
But despite rumors before the meeting about possible changes to the US and UK position on Ukraine using their weapons to strike targets far inside Russia, the US indicated not to expect any major new policy announcments.

Here's the latest news from Russia's war in Ukraine on September 13:

  Skip next section US puts new sanctions on Russia's RT
US puts new sanctions on Russia's RT

Secretary of State Antony Blinken on Friday announced new US sanctions against Russian international state broadcaster RT, and urged countries to treat it as they do other arms of Russian intelligence operations. 

He said that RT had moved beyond being a media entity and vehicle for disinformation, and was "functioning like a de facto arm of Russia's intelligence apparatus." He cited alleged activities like covert fundraising to buy military equipment for soldiers fighting in Ukraine.

"Today, we're announcing that these Kremlin-backed media outlets are not only playing this covert influence role to undermine democracy in the United States, but also to meddle in the sovereign affairs of countries around the world," Blinken said. 

Friday's new measures targeted RT's parent company, TV Novosti. The US last week accused RT of meddling in the 2024 election and issued sanctions against RT's Editor-in-Chief Margarita Simonyan, prompting Russia to pledge reciprocal steps

The UK issued similar comments late on Friday, as Prime Minister Keir Starmer was in Washington with President Joe Biden. 

Britain's foreign ministry said that the news channel was previously a "mouthpiece for Russian disinformation," but that it had "mutated into an altogether more harmful organization." 

https://www.dw.com/en/ukraine-updates-starmer-biden-meet-at-white-house/live-70205740

 

MAKE A DEAL PRONTO BEFORE THE SHIT HITS THE FAN:

 

 

NO NATO IN "UKRAINE" (WHAT'S LEFT OF IT)

THE DONBASS REPUBLICS ARE NOW BACK IN THE RUSSIAN FOLD — AS THEY USED TO BE PRIOR 1922. THE RUSSIANS WON'T ABANDON THESE AGAIN.

THESE WILL ALSO INCLUDE ODESSA, KHERSON AND KHARKIV.....

CRIMEA IS RUSSIAN — AS IT USED TO BE PRIOR 1954

TRANSNISTRIA WILL BE PART OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION.

A MEMORANDUM OF NON-AGGRESSION BETWEEN RUSSIA AND THE USA.

 

EASY.

 

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anglo-insanity....

 

By M.K. Bhadrakumar
Indian Punchline

 

U.K. Prime Minister Keir Starmer met with U.S. President Joe Biden in the White House on Friday with the question of the use of long-range missiles by Ukraine to hit deep inside Russia on their agenda of conversation. But there were no announcements, nor was there any joint press conference.

Starmer later told the media that the talks were “productive” but concentrated on “strategy” rather than a “particular step or tactic.” He did not signal any decision on allowing Kiev to fire long-range missiles into Russia. 

Starmer said no final decision had been taken on the Storm Shadow missiles and hinted that further developments may follow at the gathering of the U.N. General Assembly later this month. “We’ll obviously pick up again in UNGA in just a few days time with a wider group of individuals,” he said.

One reason for such extreme secrecy is that the U.S. and U.K. are intensely conscious of the Russian President Vladimir Putin’s explicit warning on Thursday that any use of Western long-range missiles to strike Russia “will mean that NATO countries, the United States, and European countries are parties to the war in Ukraine. This will mean their direct involvement in the conflict, and it will clearly change the very essence, the very nature of the conflict dramatically.” 

Putin added in measured words: “This will mean that NATO countries – the United States and European countries –- are at war with Russia. And if this is the case, then, bearing in mind the change in the essence of the conflict, we will make appropriate decisions in response to the threats that will be posed to us.” 

[See: Raising the Stakes in Ukraine]

Admittedly, Putin has given similar warnings before also, but did not follow through even when Western weaponry was used by Ukraine with impunity to invade Russia recently. So much so that Biden was plainly dismissive about the latest Kremlin warning, saying, “I don’t think much about Vladimir Putin.” 

On its part, Moscow estimates that although no official decision on the matter has been announced, it has already been made and communicated to Kiev, and that Moscow would have to respond with actions of its own. 

Deputy Foreign Minister Sergey Ryabkov, Moscow’s point person on the diplomatic track, was quoted as saying on Saturday, 

“The decision has been made, the carte blanche and all indulgences have been given (to Kiev), so we [Russia] are ready for everything. And we will react in a way that will not be pretty.” 

Former Russian President Dmitry Medvedev, who now serves as deputy chairman of the country’s security council, went a step further saying that the West is testing Russia’s patience but it is not limitless. He said Ukraine’s invasion already gave Russia formal grounds to use its nuclear arsenal. 

Medvedev warned that Moscow could either resort to nuclear weapons in the end, or use some of its non-nuclear but still deadly novel weapons for a large-scale attack. “And that would be it. A giant, grey, melted spot instead of ‘the mother of Russian cities’,” he wrote on the Telegram messaging app, referring to Kiev. 

Putin, in his remark on Thursday once again rejected the Anglo-American sophistry that it is Ukraine that will be using any Western long-range missiles and not NATO. He pointed out that the Ukrainian army 

“is not capable of using cutting-edge high-precision long-range systems supplied by the West. They cannot do that. These weapons are impossible to employ without intelligence data from satellites which Ukraine does not have. This can only be done using the European Union’s satellites, or U.S. satellites – in general, NATO satellites…

“most important, the key point even – is that only NATO military personnel can assign flight missions to these missile systems. Ukrainian servicemen cannot do this. Therefore, it is not a question of allowing the Ukrainian regime to strike Russia with these weapons or not. It is about deciding whether NATO countries become directly involved in the military conflict or not.” 

Interestingly, neither Washington nor London has so far refuted Putin’s above explanation and, curiously, it has been missing from British press reports — perhaps on  fears that public opinion might militate against such direct involvement by the U.K. in a war against Russia in a combat role.

Moscow anticipates that the U.S.-U.K. ploy may be to test the waters by first (openly) using Britain’s Storm Shadow long-range air-launched cruise missile, which has already been supplied to Ukraine. On Friday, Russia expelled six British diplomats assigned to the Moscow embassy in a clear warning that U.K.-Russia ties will be affected. Russia has already warned the U.K. of severe consequences if the Storm Shadow were to be used to hit Russian territory. 

What makes the developing situation extremely dangerous is that the cat-and-mouse game so far about NATO’s covert involvement in the Ukraine war is giving way to a game of Russian roulette that follows the laws of Probability Theory.

That is to say, although Russia cannot be defeated or evicted from the territories in eastern and southern Ukraine that it annexed, Washington and London regard that the final outcome of this random event cannot yet be determined before it occurs; it may even be any one of several possible outcomes, and the probability cannot be ruled out that the actual outcome  might even be determined by chance.

Apparently, Biden believes that Russia’s current battlefield dominance is a random phenomenon and possible outcomes range from an annihilation of Russian military power to a large-scale disruption of life in Russia and a possible collapse of Russia — at a minimum, the weakening of the Russian hand in any future negotiations. Simply put, the war is now about Russia rather than Ukraine and long-range missiles can be a game changer. 

 

Thus, Biden, with no political constraints working on him anymore, is escalating the war to create new facts on the ground before his presidency ends in January, which may create conditions for permanent NATO military presence on Ukrainian territory and present Russia with a fait accompli. 

Such a strategy built on the quicksands of probability is akin to a game of Russian roulette — an act of bravado. Indeed, Biden’s options to support Ukraine are shrinking with each escalation. As The Wall Street Journal puts it, 

“With only four months left in the Biden administration and little hope of Congress approving additional funding for Ukraine no matter who wins the presidency, the White House is debating how best to help Kyiv given its limited toolbox.” 

Equally, Europe’s interest in the war is also waning. European politics is becoming unpredictable with the ascendancy of the far-right in Germany, the crisis of leadership in French politics, the relative decline of EU’s economy vis-a-vis global rivals due to limited innovation, high energy prices and skills gaps, etc. and, of course, the overarching economic crisis in Europe with no end in sight, as brought out starkly in the recent report by Mario Draghi

Basically, Biden is pre-setting the trajectory of the war beyond next January so that even after his retirement, his policy approach aimed at inflicting a strategic defeat on Russia remains on track. White House National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan said on Saturday that Washington is working on a “substantial” round of further assistance for Kiev. He confirmed a meeting this month between Biden and his Ukrainian counterpart Zelensky.

Sullivan noted that Biden is working to put Ukraine in the “best possible position to prevail” during his final months in office. The bottom line is that Biden’s war strategy is attenuating as “escalation management” while NATO transitions as a direct party to hostilities. 

M.K. Bhadrakumar is a former diplomat. He was India’s ambassador to Uzbekistan and Turkey. Views are personal.

This article originally appeared on Indian Punchline.

 

https://consortiumnews.com/2024/09/16/ukraine-war-turns-into-russian-roulette/

 

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