There may be plenty to quibble about with Mr Turnbull's fine print but this is assuaged by the reality that he has committed to submit his policy to no less than three separate reviews post-election: into the NBN's strategic options, an audit of its finances and costs and an overall cost-benefit analysis. Presumably this allows Turnbull to change his policy when and where the facts informing it change. This is in stark contrast to an existing NBN policy which was effectively set in stone in April 2009 by diktat with virtually no open, informed or transparent consideration of the alternatives or the "counter-factuals" as economists might put it.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/it-pro/government-it/why-the-coalitions-nbn-plan-makes-sense-20130410-2hkx2.html#ixzz2Q2pvxB1c

This is a lot of gas-bagging nonsense that gets supported by some economists, the likes of Alan Kohler — an economist who more often than not is a parrot of the silly policies by the coalition... They don't see further down the line, the cost of improving the network from their concoction would be ten time the cost of simply doing it right in the first place... Simple.

Let me repeat here: the Telstra copper network is in a state of disrepair like you would not believe... Daily the Telstra techos thank the goddess of copper, Venus, for keeping the old thingy going...

The Coalition's alternative NBN won't deliver the same capability, but that's the whole point. Geeks won't like it, but for most people, Malcolm Turnbull's plan will seem good enough, writes Stilgherrian.

Malcolm Turnbull pwned Stephen Conroy with the Coalition's broadband policy launch, I said yesterday. It was a heat-of-the-moment reaction. But in the cold, clear light of day today I'll stand by it.

Indeed, I'll go further. Turnbull not only pwned communications minister Conroy and the broadband policy high ground. He pwned opposition leader Tony Abbott. And he pwned The Future.

http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/4620350.html

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That is a lot of crap... Stilgherrian and you should know that...

Stilgherrian tries to look cool and has published his stuff in Crikey, a websyite that has turned-coat and now is little more than a bourgeois middle of the road entity, since the Ruddites lost their pants.

So why does the ABC published Stilgherrian's stuff once more? Mostly because the ABC management wants Abbott to win the election no matter what. Any little bit helps... It's a disgrace. Abbott may not have said much, but beware. The ABC is in danger should the coalition come in... Already their man, Mac Scott is in there, bidding his time...

The first line of Stilgherrian is telling... "The Coalition's alternative NBN won't deliver the same capability, but that's the whole point"... What an idiotic statement in support of worst.  Information Technology is likely to move ahead more and more... And the opposition's concoction will soon be a retardation in this country against improvements. Malcolm's plan seems good enough for most people? Possibly now when people are still battling with their steam engines, but when new computation comes along, fast delivery will be a key factor and Turnbull's idiotic conglomeration won't deliver it... unless one fiddles with it at massive cost. New Node boxes will have to be installed and eventually the entire copper would have to be replaced... It's too silly for words.

One of the main point is that the copper network is not fit to deliver much more bytes than it does now... Already this afternoon, here, the network struggled. I often blame my old computer for this but after having rebooted the lot, the modem still struggled. the fast ADSL was down by 80 per cent... Too many people on the line? Who knows... Speed of communication whether in life saving situation or just plain entertaining mode is THE FUTURE, as Stilgherrian puts it... 

Stilgherrian, Malcom pwed nothing... All he did is told us to get shoved with a lesser quality product that will be obsolete within 5 years... get a life.

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THE COALITION should firstly be congratulated upon launching today a detailed, closely argued policy proposal on their alternative vision for the National Broadband Network and how it can be implemented “faster” and at less cost than the current NBN.

Malcolm Turnbull has moved the Coalition light years – or at least several million fibre optic kilometres – from the Luddite criticisms thrown up by the Opposition during the 2010 federal election campaign. And today, with his party leader Tony Abbott, he has released a coherent policy five months in advance of the 2013 election, in contrast to the Opposition’s broadband policy release just three days ahead of the previous federal election, on 13 August 2010.

That said, it was sad to see the number of debating tricks employed in launching his national broadband policy.

There was the conflation of the government’s NBN policies mark I (2007) and mark II (2009), and the selective omission of the “externalities” in the rollout of the NBN – particularly the long negotiations with Telstra and the business-model-changing interventions of the ACCC) – in order to trash the reputations of both NBN Co and the government, in failing to meet rollout targets announced in either 2007 or 2010.

And there is the claim that the NBN, as a “government-owned telecom monopoly”, somehow inhibits retail competition. In contrast, the Australian telecommunications industry recognises that it has only been through part of the current government’s NBN policy – the structural separation of Telstra and the positioning of the NBN building blocks as wholesale resources available to all retailers on equal terms of usage – that will allow totally equitable retail competition in the supply of broadband.

There was also Mr Turnbull’s claim that in choosing the cheaper FTTN (Fibre to the Node) option, rather than Fibre to the Home (FTTH), the Coalition is following world’s best practice. This political delusion – not shared widely within the telecommunications industry – was recently burst by independent journalist Stuart Corner’s article in the Telecommunications Journal of Australia, “The politics of speed”, where he found that “82% of investment in FTTX (FTTH or FTTN) in 2012-17 in the world’s developed countries is estimated to be in fibre-to-the-home (FTTH)” — i.e. only 18% of that investment is destined for Mr Turnbull’s preferred FTTN.

http://www.independentaustralia.net/2013/business/technology/tricky-turnbulls-myopically-modest-nbn-plan/

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ON TUESDAY, April 9, the Liberals began to lose the election. Their NBN (cheap, slow, gimcrack, cities only) proved strictly Amateur Hour, and John Howard defended his WMD war (everybody believed in those big bombs except the weapons inspectors) and Thatcher, dying, showed again the world-view Howard stood for and Abbott, a Howardite, now had to defend.

This latter task will be hard for him. Thatcher’s war on coal miners, who wanted only to feed their families and dig up coal that China might still be buying, resembled closely Holden’s war on its workers,also announced that day. And her invention of the word ‘privatisation’ brought back how much Australians hate all that, and Abbott’s plans to privatise all the schools ‒ every one of them ‒ which has not sunk in yet.

He is done for now, I think.

On the day that Gillard brought back a deal with China, he unveiled a machine which, burping, fizzing and upside down with its legs in the air, would not pay its way in seats he needed to win. And on the day that Howard, who wanted Mandela hanged, spoke for his catastrophic war on A-bombs that weren’t there, Thatcher, who wanted Mandela hanged, died mad and Mandela got a bit better. This will mean Gillard will be preferred PM next time, Katter gaining, and Turnbull intriguing against his leader. And by the time someone raises his own sexual history against him in the House, he, Abbott, will already be on the slide.

http://www.independentaustralia.net/2013/politics/the-day-it-all-fell-down/

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If the Australian public does not reject Turnbull's abomination, then most of this country is full of cross-eyes smelly racoons... Bob Ellis prediction is reassuring.

Please, Malcolm, not the Kingswood... Nothing wrong with this Holden GM legend — a car released in the late 1960s, designed with some 1950s mindsets... Strangely, I was one of the first test-driver in 1971 of a new model of this car which at the time gave me a retrograde impression compared to then already smart European cars... Japanese cars were still cheap and nasty. I owed a FC (1959) thereafter...

So, Please, Malcolm, not the Kingswood... We live in 2013, not 1970...

http://www.abc.net.au/iview/#/view/32376

The Coalition's broadband plan is not just short-sighted to the point of terminal myopia, it will put a brake on Australia's development and productivity, writes Mungo MacCallum.

You have to admit it's progress, of a kind. In 2010 Tony Abbott appointed Malcolm Turnbull to demolish the National Broadband network. Now, three years later, he's announced that he won't actually demolish it; he'll just bugger it up.

Labor's grand vision of a nation linked by state of the art technology which can be expanded indefinitely to keep pace with the rest of the world is to be replaced by a cheap and nasty mishmash vastly inferior to that in use throughout Europe and the Americas and frankly laughable compared to the emerging technologies of the Asian tigers.

None of this is surprising coming from Abbott, the scientifically illiterate Luddite who describes the science of climate change as crap, but we had hoped for better from the man he replaced as opposition leader and has now christened his "Mr Broadband".

It is a label Malcolm Turnbull will wear with some embarrassment - his scheme has already been rechristened Fraudband by the critics on the grounds that it is not just second rate, but a complete lemon.

The decision to save time and money by retaining Telstra's old copper wire links from the proposed nodes (Tardis-like structures to be erected every few blocks) to the vast majority of premises is not a solution but a bog-up; a short-term fix whose true cost and consequences have either been forgotten or, more probably, conveniently ignored on the principle that, until the election is out of the way, near enough is good enough.

The problem, of course, is the ageing copper. Not only will this be extremely costly to maintain for what is left of its useful life, but in the meantime it places immutable limits on the amount of information that the user can receive. Fibre, on the other hand, is not only hugely more efficient but highly adaptable; the responsible minister, Stephen Conroy, says that the starting point for his system will be 100 megabits per second - about eight times the current speed - with the possibility of upgrading to 10 times that amount.

http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/4628984.html

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Australians linked to the national broadband network will be able to get world-leading internet download speeds of one gigabit per second by the end of this year, the company building the network will announce on Friday.

While some countries such as Japan are moving even further ahead with 2Gbps connections, Australia's coming 1Gbps capability is the same speed as Google's cutting edge fibre network in several US cities.

An entire movie could be pulled down in several seconds using the service, which is about 100 times faster than the average speeds offered by ADSL connections. But most people would not see the true benefit of 1Gbps for another 10 years, when households would have multiple rooms streaming super high definition video from the internet, according to Professor Rod Tucker, director of the institute for a broadband-enabled society at the University of Melbourne.

"The average person who does regular internet activities is probably not going to notice much difference today,'' Professor Tucker said. ''Where I think it will make a difference is in small businesses.''

Independent telecommunications analyst Paul Budde said right now only about 5 per cent of people, mainly small businesses, would be able to make use of the increased speed.

The wholesale price for the 1Gbps service will be $150 a month, though retailers will add a margin to this. NBN Co will also launch two other high speed services - 250Mbps and 500 Mbps - by December.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/it-pro/government-it/nbn-customers-set-for-worldleading-download-speeds-to-happen-by-end-of-the-year-20130418-2i32b.html#ixzz2QrXPghqF

But there was never any clear role defined for the state governments that traditionally govern urban and regional planning.

Interestingly the main federally funded initiatives to support the NBN (mostly introduced by the previous Labor government) reached out to the local governments and not the state governments.

This lack of connection between strategic planning and the NBN means clear targets for social and economic success were not defined.

This is definitely a missed opportunity.

read more if you can be bothered:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-23/nbn-how-we-fix-the-failing-broadba...

This "news" which is ABC opinionated rubbish from Dr Tooran Alizadeh — an interdisciplinary academic from the University of Sydney School of Architecture, Design and Planning, by blaming Labor a much as the Libs (CONservatives) for the NBN mess.

Let's be clear: Labor promised the NBN with the best technology. The Libs under the influence of Uncle Rupe did not want any of it and together, the Libs and Murdoch, fought the concept on "price" to make Australian vote a Lib government in. The Libs claimed that the NBN was unnecessary and Uncle Rupe wanted to protect his cable monopoly. The Result was that Labor got back in but had to make a deal with the independents to start the NBN in the "country" not in the city. There was nothing wrong with this approach but everyone became impatient. Rolling out the main arteries of the cable network was necessary before private connections were made, the Libs (CONservatives) with the help of Uncle Rupe won the following election and planned to dismantled the network so it would become useless. Malcolm, god bless his breeches, fought against Abbott to still "make the network work", but at much less capacity, by mixing technologies, including reusing the old copper network some of it made of old 1936 German copper and paper cables, which Telstra hope would disappear forever.

The blame of the mess lays firmly on the Libs (CONservatives). Read all the NBN stories on this site. Malcolm and Abbott with Murdoch actually PLANNED this monumental fucup to prevent you accessing easy movie websites like STAN and NETFLIX to protect Fucktel...

See toon at top. see all images in the article below it.

Former prime minister Kevin Rudd has accused the Coalition of performing a “monumental backflip” after the government announced a $4.5 billion upgrade to the NBN.

Millions of Australian homes and businesses will gain access to ultra-fast internet under the upgrade, which will involve a significant change in policy from fibre to the node to a full fibre to the premises rollout.

The program is expected to deliver speeds of up to one gigabit per second to at least eight million premises by 2023.

The Coalition has repeatedly rejected the Rudd Labor government’s initial plan for a full-fibre rollout, and has repeatedly stood by its decision to provide only fibre to the node connections for most homes.

“This is a monumental policy backflip by the Morrison government, which has spent seven long years attacking my government’s original plan only now, seven years later, to begin delivering to Australians what they should have had all along,” Mr Rudd told the ABC. 

“Mr Morrison deserves no credit whatsoever for this. It is seven years of lost opportunity for Australia,” he said.

Communications Minister Paul Fletcher said with 99 per cent of premises able to connect to the NBN, the time was right to upgrade the network.

Read more:

https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/politics/australian-politics/2020/09/23/nbn-upgrade-kevin-rudd/

The coalition Scummo government has fought hard against the NBN since the beginning but the industry has made known to the government that the present system of fibre to the node is overloaded and is unable to compete with the 5G network which can bring one gigabit per second... The time is right? Bullshit! The time was to do things properly back ten years ago... 

Meanwhile, who are going to get "the improvement" first? 

And the major geezer to be blamed for this NBN fiasco is no less than Tony Abbott now gone to England to sell Covid-25 steam locomotives... and horse-drawn milk-carts (environmentally friendly)... on the world market...

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Trying to marry up modern fibre-optic cable with copper lines laid a century ago and then incorporating unused hybrid cables originally designed for pay television has, rather than saving money, proved a costly error.

It now will spend another $3.5 billion extending the fibre that ends at the node — those little concrete pill-boxes that dot the suburbs — all the way down the street. It will also upgrade the hybrid fibre coaxial (HFC) cables.

Until now, any criticism around its performance or the prohibitive cost has been met with a barrage of numbers and acronyms, all deliberately designed to baffle and obfuscate. The ARPU is growing, the CPP is falling and, as for the GPON, well, let's not go there.

But there's a simple point to make. 

When it comes to performance, the NBN is slower and less reliable than it should be. We may be getting much better internet service than if we were without it but, at $52 billion, it should have been so much better.

Just take a look across the Tasman.

Read more:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-09-24/nbn-upgrade-is-better-late-than-never/12694016

BLAME ABBOTT, TURNBULL AND SCOTT MORISSON FOR THIS MEGA-MESS...

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